β MSO5000 Live Monitor β Power Analysis Setup (Low-Side Shunt + Two Standard Probes)
Use two standard passive probes that ship with the MSO5000 and a R010 (10 mΞ©) low-side shunt.
This setup works for DC and AC (50/60 Hz or other fundamentals) with highest practical safety when the shunt is truly low-side (near ground).
π§° Hardware
- Shunt: 10 mΞ© (R010), mounted in the return path (between load return and supply negative).
Prefer Kelvin (4-wire) connections at the shunt pads for sensing. - Probes: the two standard Rigol passive probes (switchable 1Γ/10Γ).
- Scope: RIGOL MSO5000 (earth-referenced BNC shell).
β οΈ Bench scopes tie the probe ground clip to protective earth (PE).
Low-side shunt means the most negative node is near ground potential β safe to clip grounds there. Never clip probe grounds to two different potentials.
π Wiring (low-side)
- CH4 measures the shunt drop (mV). Tip on the load side of the shunt, ground on Supply(β).
- CH3 measures voltage vs Supply(β) (DC bus or AC line vs neutral/return).
Tip: Keep shunt sense leads short/twisted. If available, solder thin sense wires directly at the shunt pads.
π Oscilloscope Setup (recommended)
Channel pairing for minimal skew
- Use the same ADC pair: CH3 (voltage) + CH4 (shunt) share one pair on MSO5000 β best phase alignment.
CH3 β Voltage
- Unit:
VOLT
- Probe switch: 10Γ (mandatory for high voltage; 1Γ is limited to a few volts)
- 20 MHz BW Limit: β (cleaner PF/phase)
- Vertical scale: match your bus/grid voltage (e.g., 100β200 V/div for ~160 V DC with 10Γ)
CH4 β Shunt (current via V/R)
- Unit:
VOLT
- Probe switch: 1Γ (maximize mV sensitivity)
- 20 MHz BW Limit: β
- Vertical scale: mV/div (start around 5β20 mV/div)
- Invert: off initially (weβll verify polarity in βSanity Checksβ)
Acquisition
- Sample rate: high enough to capture your spectrum (β₯10Γ highest relevant freq)
- Record length: cover β₯ 5β10 periods of the fundamental (for stable Ο/Q)
- Coupling:
DC
on both channels
βοΈ Live Monitor β Power Analysis Settings
Field | Set To | Notes |
---|---|---|
Voltage Ch |
3 |
Uses CH3 waveform (volts) |
Current Ch |
4 |
Uses CH4 shunt drop (volts) |
Current Probe Type |
Shunt β
|
Enables VβI = V/R |
Probe Value |
0.01 (for 10 mΞ©) |
In ohms |
Correction Factor |
1.0 |
Use for calibration only |
DC Offset |
For DC: enable and zero CH4 at no-load if needed. For AC: usually off. | |
25M [v]/[i] |
Off for mains/DC unless you need wideband |
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Click to start |
What the software does:
- Computes P = β¨vΒ·iβ© directly in time domain (valid for any waveform).
- Converts CH4 to current via I = Vshunt / 0.01 Ξ©.
- For AC, extracts the fundamental phasors to get Qβ with correct sign (+ inductive, β capacitive) and Οβ.
π§ͺ Sanity Checks (5 quick steps)
1) No-load zero (optional, DC): Power supply on, load disconnected.
- CH4 should read ~0 mV (small offset is okay). If needed, use DC Offset
zero in the app.
2) Resistive load test: Connect a purely resistive load (lamp/resistor).
- Expect PF β 1, Q β 0 (AC), P β UΓI (both DC & AC).
3) Polarity: With normal power into the load, P should be positive.
- If P is negative, toggle Invert (CH4) in the scope or the appβs βInvert currentβ option.
4) Magnitude sanity:
- At 5 A, shunt drop β 50 mV. If you see ~5 mV (Γ10 error) or ~500 mV (Γ10 too big), check probe 1Γ/10Γ and scope Probe menu.
5) Noise: Enable 20 MHz BW limit on both channels. Use 1Γ on CH4 for better mV resolution.
π― Precision Tips
- Kelvin sense: If your shunt carrier has separate sense pads, use them. Avoid sensing across long copper pours.
- Grounding: One single ground reference at Supply(β). Donβt make a second ground connection elsewhere.
- ADC pair: Prefer CH3+CH4 (or CH1+CH2) to minimize inter-channel delay.
- Phase trim (rare): If you still see a fixed Ο offset with a purely resistive load, note it and apply a tiny correction factor or offset in software.
- Bandwidth: For fast pulsed loads, raise sample rate and record length; keep BW limit on unless you need the HF content.
π‘ Safety
- Never clip a probe ground to a live/hot node. Bench scope grounds are earth-bonded.
- Verify the supply is floating or that bonding Supply(β) β PE is acceptable for your setup.
- High-energy DC (e.g., 160 V) requires appropriate probe voltage ratings (use 10Γ on CH3).
- Keep leads short; secure the shunt mechanically (it runs hot at high current).
π Quick Reference Table
Signal | CH | Scope Unit | Probe switch | BW Limit | App Probe Type | App Probe Value |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Voltage vs Supply(β) | 3 | VOLT |
10Γ | On | β | β |
Shunt drop (V across R) | 4 | VOLT |
1Γ | On | Shunt | 0.01 Ξ© |
π Troubleshooting
Symptom | What to check |
---|---|
P negative on a normal load | Flip CH4 Invert (scope) / reverse clamp orientation if you used one |
Current too small/large by Γ10 | CH4 probe switch (1Γ vs 10Γ) and scope Probe menu; Probe Value = 0.01 Ξ© |
PF jitter / noisy Q | Enable BW limit; increase record length; improve shunt wiring (Kelvin) |
Disagreement vs external meter (AC) | Confirm line frequency lock (window covers β₯5β10 periods); ensure shunt value is exact (measure it) |
Formula reminder
- Current from shunt: \( I(t) = \dfrac{V_{\text{shunt}}(t)}{0.01\,\Omega} \)
- Instantaneous power: \( p(t) = v(t)\,i(t) \), P = average of \(p(t)\)
- AC fundamental (for Qβ): \( Q_1 = \Im\{U_1\,I_1^*\} \) (positive = inductive, negative = capacitive)